Crushing Kingdoms

Disclaimer: This post is from the archives, and may not represent the current views of the author. It also may not be at all interesting to read. Continue at your own peril!

Today I had the interesting opportunity to talk to two Jehovah’s Witnesses. I’ve never had that happen to me before, since they normally come around during the day, but they rang my doorbell about five minutes before I usually leave for school. I think they were a little surprised to see someone my age, but they began to ask me if I would like to take one of their little booklets. Glancing at the title, which was What Does the Bible Really Teach?, and then making the connection between that and the fact that they were Jehovah’s Witnesses, I politely declined the offer. However, I did get into a bit of a discussion with them. I told them that I could read the Bible for myself, and they asked me if I really understood everything that I read. That was what launched it.

In hindsight, I suppose I should have mentioned that I would rather trust the Holy Spirit to guide me toward the truth in the Bible than a little booklet produced by someone who doesn’t believe the same as what I do, but I didn’t think of it at the time. Instead, she asked me whether I knew that that coming Kingdom would actually be a government. I said that yes, I believed that, in a way – later pointing out that it would not be an oppressive government of rules and regulations like the ones here on earth today. She also told me that it would be ruled by Jesus Christ, and I made some comment about how He was “right here,” pointing to my heart. Noting that, she pointed me to a verse, Daniel 2:44, which talked about God’s Kingdom and how it would crush all the other kingdoms. “And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.” (The context is Nebuchadnezzar’s dream about the statue which explains the major empires of the world.) She asked me that if the Kingdom was in my heart, and if God was going to crush all the kingdoms, how would that work? I pointed out that it was talking about worldly kingdoms that would be crushed – obviously God wouldn’t crush His own Kingdom.

Anyways, we talked for a couple more minutes, and then she offered me the book again, which I politely declined once again. I then headed over to the bus stop and went on with my normal routine. However, it got me thinking. I’ve always been told that Jehovah’s Witnesses believe things that are different than other Christian denominations. And while I’m sure that the people that go door-to-door aren’t going to be pointing out the doctrinal differences between them and other Christians, I had to stop and ask myself: Do I really even know the differences? I’ve been told that they’re there, but I’ve never actually investigated it. So, tonight, that’s one of my projects. I need to know this, because other than one little verse which she took out of context, she didn’t really say anything that I disagreed with. I guess I should have taken that booklet, but I wasn’t thinking of that at the time. Oh well. It’ll be interesting to find out what they believe and how it’s different than what I believe.

That’s really the only thing that was interesting today. There was a killer Chemistry unit test, which really bugged me because it was so frustratingly hard, and it just kept going on and on. By the end, I just didn’t care anymore whether I got questions right or wrong – I wrote down what I thought was right, and then I didn’t look back because I didn’t care to double-check that my process was correct. Yuck. I hate tests like that. But anyways, that’s all for today. Have a good one. And try not to crush any kingdoms today.

9 responses to “Crushing Kingdoms”

Vickie

Wahoo, first comment!
I’ve been reading your blog for a few weeks now and have been totally (but not out out charactorly) lazy about comments. I’ve become one of them lurkers I hate… oh man, anyway. Comment. Concentrate. Yes. This is why I dont comment usually, I waffle…

JoHos are an interesting bunch. You dealt with them well actually. They’re very into discipline and study, so despite their skewed theology, often end up knowing more about the Bible than us.

A good resource for learning about JoHos is their own website. Here’s the link to the article about what they believe…
http://www.watchtower.org/library/jt/index.htm?article=article_03.htm

Some of their beliefs are fairly random (they wont take any blood into their body through blood or mouth, for example) and some are more confusing (“God will eliminate present system of things in the battle at Har-Magedon”), but its interesting stuff! My boyfriends rather facinated with them (I’m yet to understand why…) so yeah, I picked some stuff up.

Nice blog by the way, you have a great writing style =]

I’ll be back!

Michelle koch

Hey Jeff I’d just thought I’d tell you about a book I found, Why So Many Gods? by Tim Baker. It goes through different religions, worldviews and cults, telling you the history and beliefs and how they differ from the bible. It’s all written from a Christian standpoint. I found it really informative and would highly suggest it.

Jeff

Hey there Vickie, glad to know that I’m being creepily watched by some person in the UK…haha well alright, not really. I was trying to figure out where I had seen your name before, since I remember glancing at your blog a while ago (I’m sorry, I didn’t leave a comment either), but I finally got that sorted out. Myspace! Oh the people you meet there…

So anyways, I had a very informative time yesterday learning about these guys – I actually looked at the very site that you pointed out. There’s some weird stuff there. I also learned all about how apparently Christ returned invisibly back in like 1914 or something, and how Christ was crucified on a stake rather than a cross (why that even really matters is beyond me, it’s still wooden). However, like you said, they seem to know plenty about the Bible – the lady I talked to knew exactly where to go to find some seemingly random verse about kingdoms being crushed. But as far as I can see, they take verses quite out of context for some of their points – like how the earth will never be destroyed or depopulated.

Anyways, glad to see that these Jehovah’s Witnesses got you out of your lurking shell πŸ™‚ Thanks for the comment!

And Michelle. At least I know who you are. That book definitely sounds interesting. Do you have a copy of it, or know where I could get it (ahem, preferably for free, because I’m cheap :P)? Hmm, or maybe I’ll take a look at my church library…they might just have a copy of it. Thanks for the suggestion!

Michelle

I ordered it from the Christian bookstore, but your welcome to borrow my copy and save your self the time and money.

Jeff

Awesome, that would be great! Thanks…I’ll see you, uh, sometime. And you could give it to me then. Or perhaps I could trade you for it if we do another Bigger and Better πŸ˜›

Danny Haszard

I applaud your blog.

Up close and personal Jehovah’s Witnesses can be wolves in sheep’s clothing.

Think about this-When the devil comes knocking on your door he may not have the ‘dark goth look’.They could be smartly dressed and wielding the Christian Bible.

I have Jehovah’s Witnesses family in the usa who practice the Watchtower JW enforced ritual shunning that i have not seen or heard from in 15 years.

The central CORE dogma of the Watchtower is Jesus second coming (invisibly) in 1914 and is a lie.Jehovah’s Witnesses are a spin-off of the man made Millerite movement of 1840.

A destructive cult of false teachings, that frequently result in spiritual and psychological abuse, as well as needless deaths (bogus blood transfusion ban).

Yes,you can ‘check out anytime you want but you can never leave’,because they can and will hold your family hostage.

The world has the Internet now,and there are tens of thousands of pages up from disgruntled ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses like myself who have been abused by the Watchtower cult.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are often a mouth that prays a hand that kills.The Watchtower is a truly Orwellian world.
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Danny Haszard Jehovah’s Witness X 33 years and 3rd generation http://www.dannyhaszard.com

Jeff

Well, I wouldn’t describe these two ladies that came to my door “wolves in sheep’s clothing,” because I don’t think that they had some evil plot to suck me into their cult. It may be true that JW beliefs are dangerous and that they trap you, but that’s just it: these two people, like others, were trapped and their thinking reshaped. Cults and false teachers are tools used by the Devil to twist the truth, but the problem is that we can’t extend the imagery of the Devil to the people caught within the lie. They are just unfortunate victims.

However, that’s likely just semantics that I’m debating. The truth of the matter is that sometimes, I admire these JW’s – not because of their teachings, but because they sometimes put Christians to shame. They go up to houses, ring the doorbell, and start conversations about beliefs with total strangers. And I’ve found out that religion and personal beliefs can be a touchy subject. Then I stop myself and ask: When was the last time that I actually talked to someone about my faith? Sure, not all missionary work has to be overseas or door-to-door, but when was the last time I even asked someone what they believe about God or started up a simple conversation about anything, with the intention of sharing the gospel?

JW’s are not to be feared, but perhaps pitied, and learned from. We don’t need to brainwash, but we do have a mandate straight from Jesus Himself to spread the gospel to the world. Maybe it’s time to start getting serious about that. But anyways, thanks for the comment, Danny. I realize that really didn’t have much to do with your post, but perhaps it’s just something to think about πŸ™‚

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